I'm very into long term investment and FIRE. The people from those communities usually see trading as a sure way to lose money. Also, there are many self-proclaimed gurus that try to sell the idea that trading is easy and that you can quit your 9-5 job and live off trading in no time. In my eyes this sounds delusional and scammy. I'm very sceptical about making money with trading. I'd be fighting against investment banks whose budgets are counted in the millions; they can buy software and hardware and hire the best candidates to trade. Do I really have a chance to make money consistently? If so, what's a realistic expected return? How much do you guys make per year, and how many years of experience do you have?